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Wednesday, June 26, 2024

Ivy League Posture Photos - Part 33

 Ivy League Posture Photos

Yale started taking nude photos of incoming freshmen in 1919 as part of a program to detect and correct posture problems.  The Yale photos have erroneously been associated with William Sheldon, a psychologist at Harvard and author of Nazi-like eugenic theories who used Harvard nude posture photos to illustrate his theory of somatypes.  The Yale program predates Sheldon, and, as far as I can tell, the Yale photos were never connected to Sheldon's work.

Here are four more posture photos taken at Yale that I had the opportunity to acquire.  For privacy reasons, I redact the names of men who might still be alive.  All of these men have passed away, so their names are not redacted.

This is Yale freshman Tung Hon Jeong on Oct. 6, 1953.

In 1952, Yale installed an apparatus using mirrors to photograph the front, rear, side and top view, as seen in these photos.  Prior to that, the posture photo was just a side view.

This is Yale freshman Frederick H. Williams on Oct. 3, 1953.

Note the strange pins stuck to each student's back and chest.  The pins were stuck on at specific points for later posture analysis.  Supposedly, by examining the angles formed by connecting the points where the pins touched the body, certain posture problems could be detected.

This is Yale freshman Peter R. Williams on Oct. 12, 1953.

If posture problems were detected, the student had to attend remedial posture sessions, and a second posture photo was taken.

The photography and analysis of the photos was conducted by the staff of Yale's Payne Whitney Gymnasium.  Nobody outside this staff saw the photos, and the photos were not published for other students to see.

This is Yale freshman Clarence E. Zimmermann III on Oct. 16, 1953.

The posture photo program was discontinued in the 1960s, and later, most of the photos were burned.  However, some of the photos escaped burning, including the photos that I have been showing in this series.

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Note: some of my followers have questioned the propriety of publishing these photos.  If you think I should not publish them, please don't comment to that effect.  Too much time and space has been taken up on the subject.  We can agree to disagree.  If you don't like it, go to some other blog.  Here is my position:

1. Were these photos an invasion of privacy for the students?  By today's standards, yes.  By the standards of the day, not so much.  In that era, guys were routinely naked around each other in locker rooms and in swimming pools when women weren't present.  Being asked to strip and even being photographed naked as part of a posture examination would not seem too outrageous.

2. To protect the privacy of the students, I redact the names of students who may still be alive.  I only publish the names of students who have died.  Legally, the right to privacy does not extend beyond death, i.e. it does not extend to spouses, children, grandchildren, etc. of the deceased person.

3. In my opinion, publishing these photos is similar to publishing nude photos of athletes and soldiers taken by LIFE magazine photographers.  At the time, the understanding of the photo subjects was that photos with frontal nudity would not be published in the magazine (and they never were), but the LIFE photo archive containing those photos is now publicly available online, and nobody seems to be complaining about it.

4. I consider these photos to be a historical record of the time.  Almost all of the Ivy League posture photos were burned when their existence became widely known.  In my opinion, that was akin to book-burning of books that someone claimed were obscene.  These photos are not obscene.  They should be celebrated, not hidden away.

7 comments:

Anonymous said...

I was wondering if you knew why so many of the Yale photos have survived until today.

It's just these (both the older side profile and the more advanced ones we see here) and the various military ones. Plus the Estonian ones (which I only found out about because of your blog - thank you!).

We know these posture style photos were relatively widespread at elite universities at the time. However, as far as I am aware, none have been released from other universities. I also haven't seen any female photos.

Anonymous said...

Peter R. Williams is amazing. Looks as if he could have been the Prom King in high school. And we get to see him without a stitch on. Thank you!

JiEL said...

Peter R, Williams must have been a real Don Juan in his time.To me I would take a chance to be «friend» with him.

Clarence E. Zimmermann has a cute baby faceb but his main features are his nice low hanger balls...His ass is to take care of for sure.

Unashamed Male said...

@Anon - I have read that most of the Ivy League and Seven Sisters posture photos were burned in the 1970s after they became an embarrassment to the colleges. I do not know the history of why some of the Yale photos survived.

Filipenis said...

thanks for posting these. i like the first 3 photos esp. peter williams

Anonymous said...

Please keep these photos coming! I enjoy seeing healthy male 18-year olds who were made to strip!

Anonymous said...

Those photographers were lucky dudes. Hundreds of young guys in their physical prime, with absolutely nothing on, on complete display. Could life get any better?