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Monday, May 8, 2023

Ivy League Posture Photos - Part 15

 Ivy League Posture Photos

Yale started taking nude photos of incoming freshmen in 1919 as part of a program to detect and correct posture problems.  The Yale photos have erroneously been associated with William Sheldon, a psychologist at Harvard and author of Nazi-like eugenic theories who used Harvard nude posture photos to illustrate his theory of somatypes.  But, as far as I can tell, the Yale photos are not connected to Sheldon's work.

Here are five more posture photos taken at Yale that I had the opportunity to acquire.  For privacy reasons, I redact the names of men who might still be alive.  Four of these men have passed away, so their names are not redacted.

This is Yale freshman T.G. on Oct. 21, 1948.  Prior to 1952, the posture photos were like these ones, showing a side view.  In 1952, Yale installed an apparatus using mirrors to take posture photos showing front, rear, side and top views.  

This is Yale freshman Brandon James Hickey on Oct. 8, 1948.

This is Yale freshman Robert Evans Lewis on Oct. 8, 1948.  Note the strange pins stuck to each student's back and chest.  The pins were stuck on at specific points for later posture analysis.  Supposedly, by examining the angles formed by connecting the points where the pins touched the body, certain posture problems could be detected.

This is Yale freshman Stephen Albert Wareck on Oct. 8, 1948.

This is Yale freshman Julian Jay Wargo on Oct. 8, 1948.  He was of special interest to me because he went to the same high school as I did, although long before my time.

Were these photos an invasion of privacy for the students?  By today's standards, yes.  By the standards of the day, not so much.  In that era, guys were routinely naked around each other in locker rooms and in swimming pools when women weren't present.  Being asked to strip and even being photographed naked as part of a posture examination would not seem too outrageous, since the staff conducting this was all-male (and remember that Yale was an all-male school).

Some of my followers have questioned the propriety of publishing these photos, since the students did not give consent for their publication.  My reply:

1. I only publish the names of students who have died.  To protect their privacy, I have redacted the names of students who may still be alive (despite the fact that their names have already been published on an online auction site).  Legally, the right to privacy does not extend beyond death, i.e. it does not extend to spouses, children, grandchildren, etc. of the deceased person.

2. In my opinion, publishing these photos is similar to publishing nude photos of athletes and soldiers taken by LIFE magazine photographers.  At the time, the understanding of the photo subjects was that photos with frontal nudity would never be published in the magazine (and they never were), but the LIFE photo archive containing those photos is now publicly available online, and nobody seems to be complaining about it.

3. I consider these photos to be a historical record of the time.  Almost all of the Ivy League posture photos were burned when their existence became widely known.  In my opinion, that was akin to book-burning of books that someone claimed were obscene.  These photos are not obscene.  They should be celebrated, not hidden away.

14 comments:

Xersex said...

Very interesting!
happy new week

Big Dude said...

At first, I was put off by these photos because I thought they were connected in some way to William Sheldon. But I see your point about their historical value. As for being naked...I swam naked at the YMCA, in high school swimming classes, and at college. It never bothered me at all.

UtahJock said...

You're a man of integrity.

SickoRicko said...

I concur with UtahJock.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for continuing to provide new (updated) photos of nude Yale freshman students. These photos capture the bodies of 18-year olds at their physical peak. Hope to see more in the future.

Treeclimber said...

Love these old pics. How comfortable the boys are with their nudity. Though I find the three way ones more interesting

Anonymous said...

I wonder how these nude boys felt as the metal pins were being attached. The lab assistants doing the pinning certainly got a good look at each incoming freshman!

Anonymous said...

Am ambivalent.
It depends on what they were told the photos would be used for. **If** they were promised the photos would be published and only used for scientific research, then their release is not proper. But it could have just been stuff that was just done with no promises.
On the other hand, if you are in your 80s or 90s and see a picture of yourself as an 18 year old at , you might be proud to see how great you looked at 18 and not mind so much that its been published showing how good looking you were. And you probably want to keep a copy of this image since it is unlikely you would have many pictures of yourself at that age.

The publication of these images is not revenge porn and not meant to insult or disgrace the individuals. And the pose they take is not sexual and not demeaning.

UtahJock said...

What Anonymous indicated (last two sentences) is not realized by most contemporary folk who are quick to take most things out of context.

Treeclimber said...

Was it just incoming freshman? It incoming first year students? If you transferred to Yale in your junior year were you subject to this?

Unashamed Male said...

@Treeclimber - It was just freshmen. In an article published in the Research Quarterly of the American Physical Association in 1937, the procedure is described: "At the beginning of the fall term each member of the incoming freshman class is sent a post card requesting him to report to the Payne Whitney Gymnasium at a designated time for a complete orthopedic examination." It then describes how the student's height and weight without clothes are recorded, and how the student stands for examination by a doctor, and how the posture photo is taken for further examination.

Treeclimber said...

Interesting… have to admit some of them look older than 17/18/19! Think it would be interesting if they went through process year over year to see changes- after all they were interested in posture! Did the ‘recommendations’ help?

Unashamed Male said...

@Treeclimber - The fixation on "posture problems" in the 1920s through 1960s by multiple colleges seems bizarre to us now, because we view it as a non-issue. Yale's program did include a doctor's exam to detect real physical problems like scoliosis (curvature of the spine), but that would have been rare. Apparently Yale's program included some remedial sessions to "correct" posture if the student failed the posture exam, but I have never read anything about students whose posture was actually "improved".

Treeclimber said...

Remember the curvature of the spine check at my pediatrician appointments as kid. Made me touch toes and ran fingers up both sides of spine. Much quicker and less ‘invasive’ than this! Lol