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Thursday, December 28, 2023

Ivy League Posture Photos - Part 25

 Ivy League Posture Photos

Yale started taking nude photos of incoming freshmen in 1919 as part of a program to detect and correct posture problems.  The Yale photos have erroneously been associated with William Sheldon, a psychologist at Harvard and author of Nazi-like eugenic theories who used Harvard nude posture photos to illustrate his theory of somatypes.  But, as far as I can tell, the Yale photos are not connected to Sheldon's work.

Here are six more posture photos taken at Yale that I had the opportunity to acquire.  For privacy reasons, I redact the names of men who might still be alive.  All of these men have passed away, so their names are not redacted.

This is Yale freshman Robert Irving Lyman on Oct. 4, 1939.

Before 1952, the Yale posture photos showed a side view of the student.  After 1952, a different apparatus was used, providing posture photos showing a front, rear, side and top view.

This is Yale freshman Donald William Maclean on Oct. 4, 1939.

Note the strange pins stuck to each student's back and chest.  The pins were stuck on at specific points for later posture analysis.  Supposedly, by examining the angles formed by connecting the points where the pins touched the body, certain posture problems could be detected.

This is Yale freshman Allen Louis Solomon on Oct.. 2, 1939.

The photos were then analyzed.  If posture problems were detected, the student had to attend remedial posture sessions.

This is Yale freshman Stuart Holmes Johnson, Jr. on Oct. 2, 1941.

The photography and analysis of the photos was conducted by the staff of Yale's Payne Whitney Gymnasium.  Nobody outside this staff saw the photos, and the photos were not published for other students to see.

This is Yale freshman Gerhard Emmanuel Lenski, Jr. on Oct. 8, 1941.

After the photos were used, they were filed away.  The posture photo program was discontinued in the 1960s, and later, most of the photos were burned.  However, some of the photos escaped burning, including the photos that I have been showing in this series.

This is Yale freshman Robert Elliot Post on Oct. 3, 1941.

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Note: some of my followers have questioned the propriety of publishing these photos.  If you think I should not publish them, please don't comment to that effect.  Too much time and space has been taken up on the subject.  We can agree to disagree.  If you don't like it, go to some other blog.  Here is my position:

1. Were these photos an invasion of privacy for the students?  By today's standards, yes.  By the standards of the day, not so much.  In that era, guys were routinely naked around each other in locker rooms and in swimming pools when women weren't present.  Being asked to strip and even being photographed naked as part of a posture examination would not seem too outrageous.

2. To protect the privacy of the students, I redact the names of students who may still be alive.  I only publish the names of students who have died.  Legally, the right to privacy does not extend beyond death, i.e. it does not extend to spouses, children, grandchildren, etc. of the deceased person.

3. In my opinion, publishing these photos is similar to publishing nude photos of athletes and soldiers taken by LIFE magazine photographers.  At the time, the understanding of the photo subjects was that photos with frontal nudity would not be published in the magazine (and they never were), but the LIFE photo archive containing those photos is now publicly available online, and nobody seems to be complaining about it.

4. I consider these photos to be a historical record of the time.  Almost all of the Ivy League posture photos were burned when their existence became widely known.  In my opinion, that was akin to book-burning of books that someone claimed were obscene.  These photos are not obscene.  They should be celebrated, not hidden away.

7 comments:

Xersex said...

The concepts of privacy, obscenity and morality have changed a lot since these photos were taken. Not to mention cancel culture: if on the one hand it is right to respect minorities, excessive use of this new culture reveals an enormous insecurity in Western culture and civilization.

Anonymous said...

I always welcome your new installments of nude Ivy League students from the mid 20th century. I do, however, prefer the 3-angle photos (front, side, rear) over the photos published today (side view only). That being said, it is still quite fascinating to see these young men totally nude, from any angle. I'm sure some of them must have felt a bit awkward at being instructed to remove every piece of clothing and go through this process, with many clothed onlookers in their presence.

Gerald said...

I really enjoy seeing these. I wonder what these young men would have thought of old men like me, who gaze very appreciatively at their wonderfully naked bodies. This is another nice bit of history.

Chris said...

I would be pleased to siege the opportunity if I were offered to take these kinds of photos!

Anonymous said...

I can see subtle difference in the wording. The "remedial posture sessions" seems to point to these photos being part of a physical where after examination, some medical/physiotherapy would be prescribed. (and this would explain the names on the pictures so they could track back the student needing remedial treatment for posture).
In the case of the estonian photos, it seemed to be a raw inventory of bodies to study body/head size/shapes.
Consider that in the military, recruits often had to strip naked and wait in line for a quick physical. This wouldn't be that different.
One photos are put together in a collection as opposed to being stored in the private individual's medical file, they cease to have the privacy associated with private medical data and become more or a record of some "ritual" students had to go through. The existence of those photos thus has historical value as it helps describe the environment at those schools.

Anonymous said...

Truly incredible. A wonderful collection and presentation. Your blog is amazing and surprises me so much.

Anonymous said...

look for
The "Great Ivy League Nude Posture Photos Scandal"
on that youtube machine. From "The History Guy deserves to be remembered"

(scary that Youtube would know to suggest this to me).